Tetraplegik

Mysle ze im tzn. rzadowi, sejmowi i wladzom koscielnym powinno najbardziej zalezec na badaniach nad komorkami macierzystymi. Oni pilnie potrzebuja wymiany swoich komorek mozgowych. Ich tepe komorki potrzebuja natychmiastowej transplantacji.

Socios napisal;

'to nie wplynie na przebieg badan we Wroclawiu....glejowe komorki wechowe to nie to samo co embrionalne komorki macierzyste!!! ' '

Dla nich jest to tosamo. Oni ze swoja wiedza nie poszli az tak daleko. Dla nich komorki glejowe, czy komorki ze szpiku kostnego czy tez z pepowiny to jest to samo, czy tez komorki z embrionow. Wszystko biora do jednego wora. Jest to wszystko dla nich zbyt trudne i skomplikowane.
Ci hipokryci zaslaniaja swoje niewiedze , "MORALNOSCIA I ETYKA" a ci co wiedza to glosno o tym nie mowia.

CZY OC ZWRACA KASE ZA PRZESZCZEPY?
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Ja tez dołączam sie do pytania..

mam pytanie dla osób które miały robiony rezonans magnetyczny. Czy wiecie co oznacza na wyniku takiego rezonansu opis "jamy hydromieliczne"???

o badania we wroclawiu nie mamy sie co obawiac tak mysle. Sa to komorki glejowe, komorki wlasne pacjena z wlasnego nosa. cyli postepowanie jest zgodne z mysla parti rzadzacej. rzadu, kosciola jak za dawnych czasow (ale bez kosciola). Za zgodnosc z wytycznymi czynnikow partyjno-rzadowych i koscielnych powinni liczyc na duze wsparcie i poparcie
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kz
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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this is what i know about their human trial, :
so far they did on 9 people.
this it how they did it.
first they did it on rats , after the great result that they got, ethical committee department of the health ministry gave them permision to do on 30 people as human trial.
after they did on 9 people , the results were so good that they came to media and reported their results, and they said they will present it to the medical community soon (i don't know when)
this is what they did: they took shwan cells from back of the legs (below the knee) of the same patient and grew it in the clean room lab and then injected the schwan cells to the site of the injury:the time for growing the schwan cells in the lab is between 3 weeks and 45 days.
this is what i learned so far about the results:so far no bad side effect.
9 out of 9 got their bowel and bladder control back. 4 of them can stand now and with more sensation and movement and it is only few months since transplantation , and the progress is continuing , and dr. hooshang saberi said that the full improvement may takes up to a year or so, he said it takes time for more and more recovery and physiacal therapy after the transplantation is a MUST .
they are doing the rest of the 21 out of 30 (these are the 30 people that ethical commitee department of the health ministry gave permision for the human trial) now that they are suppose to do before they get permision to do other people , and they said they are preparing the facilities and training other drs. for mass treatment.
the age of the injury is not an issue. there are people 16 , 13 years post injury amoung the people who did the human trial.
they are doing for foeple 50 years or younger now.
the cord should not be completelty cut ( should not be in 2 seperate pieces) and the site of injury should not be too big.
they do some muscle and nerve test below the level of injury to make sure that nerves and muscles below the injury level are good, and they said that the nerve and muscles below the level of injury must be good ( for example they said those who have spasticity below the level of injury are better candidate , because nerves and muscles are working below the level of injury) , and they recomend to keep muscles in good shape with execise, pt, fes , etc in order to be ready for this treatment.
when i learn more , i will post it.
Last edited by kz : Yesterday at 07:0

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proszę o podanie źródła informacji pochodzącej z Iranu

wiadomsci pochodza z amerykanskiego forum carecure, a to dalszy ciag

HI, glider ,lynnifer, and everybody
this is their web site , although the web site is in english , but the information about this trial is not in english yet. WWW.RCSTIM.IR ,see the site
RESEARCH CENTER FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY IN MEDICINE
TEHRAN UNIVERSITY OF MEDICAL SCIENCE.
there is botton (contact us (it is in english) ), click on that , but that page is not in english , but there is phone number there. (i think they will update the site soon for more information) please see the web page
I have watched the tv program which was more than an hour long . i read the interview of the 3 of the doctors ,mr. dr. hooshang saberi, mrs. dr. masoumeh firouzi , and another one (i forgot his name) (it was not in english) .
i saw in the video the improvements of the 2 women and 2 men which after searching for cure for 27 years , i neve saw something like that.
this has been in their tv for about 2 weeks and everybody is talking about it.
DR. saberi (neurosergon) said that he will present this human trial results to the medical community soon (i don't know when)
please somebody type his/ her email here and i will send you the abstract of the rats report which was published in neuroscience. then, i go to one site which i found the abstract , and then i will email you the abstract from that site , and then you post the abstract here (i don't know how to transfer that abstract here from that site) . thanks
i saw the rats improvement in one video , after, 1 week, one month, 2 months and 240 days . and the rat was running after 240 days with very good cordination (it seems the improvement is slow and gradual but steady , and i remember that dr. saberi said in one interview that the full improvement may takes about one year or so, or something like that). please somebody type his/her email here or send me an email , and i will try to send you the abstract of the animal published report , and then you post it here please, thanks . as soon as i get more information , i will post it here.
I like to tell you about one of the woman who had car accident and was paralyzed, she said when she became paralyzed , one dr. told her that " there will not be any cure for this kind of injury in 300 years" , and now , i saw she was moving her legs very good after 6 weeks (i saw this in dvd myself), and she said , i wish i could go to that dr. and tell him the result that i got so far and tell him how wrong he was.
also, I know FAYE once said that she has friend in tehran, may be she can contact her friend in tehran and see if she can get more information. i will try to send an email to faye, and ask her if she can ask her friend for more information. again , as soon as i learn more , i will post it here.
best to all

To jest link do tego osrodka w Teheranie bo ten z artykulu powyrzej sie nieotwiera tylko caly problem jest w tym ze opis programu regeneracji rdzenia kregowego jest po Iransku



http://rcstim.tums.ac.ir/index.htm

Anonymous pisze:wiadomsci pochodza z amerykanskiego forum carecure, a to dalszy ciag

HI, glider ,lynnifer, and everybody
this is their web site , although the web site is in english , but the information about this trial is not in english yet. WWW.RCSTIM.IR ,see the site
RESEARCH CENTER FOR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY IN MEDICINE
TEHRAN UNIVERSITY OF MEDICAL SCIENCE.
there is botton (contact us (it is in english) ), click on that , but that page is not in english , but there is phone number there. (i think they will update the site soon for more information) please see the web page
I have watched the tv program which was more than an hour long . i read the interview of the 3 of the doctors ,mr. dr. hooshang saberi, mrs. dr. masoumeh firouzi , and another one (i forgot his name) (it was not in english) .
i saw in the * the improvements of the 2 women and 2 men which after searching for cure for 27 years , i neve saw something like that.
this has been in their tv for about 2 weeks and everybody is talking about it.
DR. saberi (neurosergon) said that he will present this human trial results to the medical community soon (i don't know when)
please somebody type his/ her email here and i will send you the abstract of the rats report which was published in neuroscience. then, i go to one site which i found the abstract , and then i will email you the abstract from that site , and then you post the abstract here (i don't know how to transfer that abstract here from that site) . thanks
i saw the rats improvement in one * , after, 1 week, one month, 2 months and 240 days . and the rat was running after 240 days with very good cordination (it seems the improvement is slow and gradual but steady , and i remember that dr. saberi said in one interview that the full improvement may takes about one year or so, or something like that). please somebody type his/her email here or send me an email , and i will try to send you the abstract of the animal published report , and then you post it here please, thanks . as soon as i get more information , i will post it here.
I like to tell you about one of the woman who had car accident and was paralyzed, she said when she became paralyzed , one dr. told her that " there will not be any cure for this kind of injury in 300 years" , and now , i saw she was moving her legs very good after 6 weeks (i saw this in dvd myself), and she said , i wish i could go to that dr. and tell him the result that i got so far and tell him how wrong he was.
also, I know FAYE once said that she has friend in tehran, may be she can contact her friend in tehran and see if she can get more information. i will try to send an email to faye, and ask her if she can ask her friend for more information. again , as soon as i learn more , i will post it here.
best to all

Czy mógłbyś podać link(i) z forum CC, gdzie znalazłeś wiadomości o Iranie? Z góry dziękuję i życze wszystkiego co najlepsze!!